• 3% Patches For Sale

I've heard of Angels checking out the BLS patch logo when it first came out. I think any new 3-piece would draw their interest. Anyhow, it is my understanding the NYC chapter is tight with Wylde. Someone even told me he saw Zakk with colors once. Take that for what it's worth. I did not see that myself. With Angels hanging on the sets with Zakk, hitting his shows and such, I think his choice of logo had to pass some type of 1%er scrutiny.

I've worn a BLS shirt out and about since someone through one my way and have never had anyone say a word let alone give me grief. Commandos behind enemy lines patch 1.05. If you passed an Angels inquiry, I think you're pretty much set. After all, there's no MC and 13 patches and the regional rockers are omitted.

Zakk does kick ass though. Quite a few Angels must think so too so I wouldn't worry. Well, as your luck would have it the HA aren't the only 1%'ers. I can tell you with certainty there is at least one percenter club that would NOT accept that patch and it has everything to do with being a piece patch, regardless of it being void of the 'MC' designator or region rocker. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around NYC or the 81. There are a number of 1% support clubs that do what is expected of them without feeling the need to check on the status of that piece patch.

Wearing a back patch Off-Topic. No MC or 1% on the patches either. Back of my vest is. If it doesn't look like a 3 piece patch it won't get.

If THEY make a mistake you are the only one who will suffer from that mistake, not them. The bottom line here is that if you 'think' it could be troublesome for you and you don't want 'troublesome' or can't handle 'trublesome' then leave it alone. By the same token, if you want to walk around with 1,000 dollar bills hanging out of your pocket, daring someone to try and take 'em away from you; well you can do that too. If 3 lone Pagans happened to spot you with that patch in some bar you'd wish it were 1,000 dollar bills you were flaunting. But they don't have to be Pagans. They could be from any 1% club.

Well,there you go PW. You got the word of someone who knows different. I can only speak of what you said with an HA checking you out, your being able to walk away and what I’ve known in my neck of the woods.

I’m not in an 81 area myself but I’ve never had a problem out at ‘raisers or events if I’ve happened to throw it on. I’ve never even thought about it pissing off clubbers though since it never has even come up. The music has come up because of it but that’s it. Maybe because it’s only a t-shirt? Maybe the locals have a different perspective? I have been told by 1%ers that an undeserved MC patch or rocker set were arenas where club “persuasion” comes into play. Again, that is only from my experience and dudes I’ve shot the shit with.

I’ve drawn my response from what I’ve seen and heard myself. What’s an issue elsewhere might not be an issue here. Apparently that’s the case. I’d run with what MD says. If the possibility exists of an ass-kicking, why would you want to chance it? I just didn’t see it that way as someone going down over a set without the standard MC references (MC / region / established club). Like I said, I would have thought BLS would have run the idea through some type of 1%er scrutiny at least since I’ve even seen kids smoking joints wearing BLS patches outside a local high school.

That could be a rude awakening for some punks some day I guess, huh? Anyhow PW, you came across someone who knows for certain problems could come up. I guess you can thank the wife but the choice to wear ‘em rides with you.

MM. I picked up a bit of wisdom also.;). Many Days last post had me thinking about a somewhat related topic.

How is support gear of one club perceived by other clubs? I’ve seen some of the big four’s sites, as well as others, and they all sell something.

I have seen club members essentially say it is nothing more than easy money and it doesn’t mean jack to see someone wear support gear of their own club. In other words, it doesn’t change the way they view anybody who wears it since an outsider is just that. No matter what. He or she who wears the gear isn’t viewed in any more of a favorable light than anyone else not affiliated with their circle.

Literally easy money. Many’s post had me wondering if other clubs see a dude wearing support gear of another, if that individual is a target as well? I don’t remember support gear being prevalent before.

I'm seeing more of it. I’ve always seen events (runs, Labor Day bashes, meets and such) thrown by clubs that had shirts and such made up and even had the sponsors on the back (support clubs, vendors, etc). But having a specific support shirt on from a specific club, that thought just had me wondering about repercussions as well. I know it’s not a patch problem but in a way it shows an affiliation by support I guess. Never thought it too much before but I did win a sweat shirt and t-shirt from a raffle ticket or something at a swap meet thrown by a club a ways back. As is the case with most of my crap, I throw one on occasionally in my rotation and know enough to not frequent runs or events and show disrespect somehow. I’m there to enjoy the damn thing.

Anyhow, Many, or anybody else for that matter, what have you come across as far as support gear opinions? I could see a club making a statement by bruising up a supporter of another club but I don’t know for sure. It might bring more of a hassle than it’s worth. Anyone hear of incidents like this or have a relevant viewpoint? Thanks & Ride Safe, MM. Enjoy the New Year. Ahh, support gear.

Well I've been floored by that shit recently. In Florida the 'O' and the 'WL' wearing one another's support shirts this past summer. How amazing is that?!?!?! I really don't know about civilians.

I'm not a civilian rider but I gotta figure most of 'em don't even think about wearing support shit. The majority of civilians don't even have a clue about our world anyway. As for me, I don't give a damn what anyone wears as long as it ain't something akin to my rag. Everyone knows there are freakin' assholes everywhere.

No matter what ya wear ya run the risk of being acosted by a verifiable asshole regardless of who he may or may not ride with. But I have to clarify my statement about the music piece patch tee. If you're running in the 'circle' you'd be pushin' your luck (asshole syndrome). If you're not hangin' in places that would put you in the heart of it all then what's to worry about? The real deal is that if you're going to hang around us, learn and pay attention and behave appropriately.

I'm sorry I can't explain what 'appropriately' means. I've been a patchholder for decades and I still find myself 'appropriately' lost (that asshole syndrome again). QUOTE (ManyDays @ Dec 30 2004, 07:53 PM) Well, as your luck would have it the HA aren't the only 1%'ers. I can tell you with certainty there is at least one percenter club that would NOT accept that patch and it has everything to do with being a piece patch, regardless of it being void of the 'MC' designator or region rocker.

Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around NYC or the 81. There are a number of 1% support clubs that do what is expected of them without feeling the need to check on the status of that piece patch. If THEY make a mistake you are the only one who will suffer from that mistake, not them. The bottom line here is that if you 'think' it could be troublesome for you and you don't want 'troublesome' or can't handle 'trublesome' then leave it alone.

By the same token, if you want to walk around with 1,000 dollar bills hanging out of your pocket, daring someone to try and take 'em away from you; well you can do that too. If 3 lone Pagans happened to spot you with that patch in some bar you'd wish it were 1,000 dollar bills you were flaunting. But they don't have to be Pagans. They could be from any 1% club. QUOTE (Michigan Mike @ Dec 31 2004, 07:27 PM) Many Days last post had me thinking about a somewhat related topic. How is support gear of one club perceived by other clubs?

I’ve seen some of the big four’s sites, as well as others, and they all sell something. I have seen club members essentially say it is nothing more than easy money and it doesn’t mean jack to see someone wear support gear of their own club. In other words, it doesn’t change the way they view anybody who wears it since an outsider is just that. No matter what. He or she who wears the gear isn’t viewed in any more of a favorable light than anyone else not affiliated with their circle. Literally easy money.

Many’s post had me wondering if other clubs see a dude wearing support gear of another, if that individual is a target as well? I don’t remember support gear being prevalent before. I'm seeing more of it. I’ve always seen events (runs, Labor Day bashes, meets and such) thrown by clubs that had shirts and such made up and even had the sponsors on the back (support clubs, vendors, etc). But having a specific support shirt on from a specific club, that thought just had me wondering about repercussions as well. I know it’s not a patch problem but in a way it shows an affiliation by support I guess. Never thought it too much before but I did win a sweat shirt and t-shirt from a raffle ticket or something at a swap meet thrown by a club a ways back.

As is the case with most of my crap, I throw one on occasionally in my rotation and know enough to not frequent runs or events and show disrespect somehow. I’m there to enjoy the damn thing.

Anyhow, Many, or anybody else for that matter, what have you come across as far as support gear opinions? I could see a club making a statement by bruising up a supporter of another club but I don’t know for sure. It might bring more of a hassle than it’s worth. Anyone hear of incidents like this or have a relevant viewpoint? Thanks & Ride Safe, MM.

Enjoy the New Year. It depends upon where you are. A Compadre of mine told me, always know where you ride. That's damn right. I have heard of folks wearing rival support wear in certain places and getting smacked around a bit but never seen it.

I ride in a state that has your 'Local 81', 'Green Nation' and the 'Black & White' with many of thier support clubs cruising. This is just in Southern, CA.Personally, I get alone with most 1%ers because I learned to be cool and respectful as an independant.

In most cases, civilians are left alone but then again there are different areas with different5 perspectives. Again, know where you ride and like another here said, asshole syndrome is very real and that is the key. It's really up to an individual. No joke at all. The media does dramatize certain conflicts and most of the time they are wrong in thier 'selective reportings' but where I ride (California), colors are serious business. With that in mind, I wear a leather vest with patches that I have earned in the Department of Forestry and the CCC (wildland fire fighter) and a couple of other odd patches that are on the front along with a select few run pins. I wear no patches on the back of my vest or jacket out of respect for the M/C's in my State.

There are many internet riding clubs like the Silent Skulls M/C and the like but those patches are bought and not earned and in the wrong place, you will get educated the hard way. The black label society back patch is cool but it's not worth the hassle if you ride and hangout in the inner circle of the Biker World. As for support gear, most folks (civillians) are left alone with that regard. There are some instances where a hassle has and will occur but for the most part, support gear is pretty much overlooked. OC California.

I'm sure the first line that one would definitetly not want to cross would be Copyright Infringement. Most Clubs Copyright their logos. While Copyright Infringement is illegal there may be those who find the legal system too slow for their liking and who can blame them? On the otherhand patch enforcement can be stretched to the point where it becomes a bully factor and worse yet Oppressive Law Enforcement has played on patch sensitivities to divide us. The smart and the elite will pull their underlings under their wings and their underlings will likewise do the same ('wings' does not ref any particular club). Every army needs it's Privates and not everyone is General material.

Outathemist comes the Gray Ghost. Is that right? Well then to those who purchase such items and want to look the part (wannabe's) then go head on. If you are out cruising on your credit glide on Sundays to the local watering hole and dress like a 1%er then perhaps you are safe.

I can only speak about Cali and what I have learned from my 25 years of riding in a State with 3 well known clubs and thier many supporters and it's best just to not go there. To another in this listing, patch patroling is not the norm really for 1%ers because they don't have the time but like another said in this listing, in the wrong watering hole or run and folks are spotted, then they best back up that patch. Many civillians do not understand or know the difference and they should for everyone's sake. I know many don't like it but that's just the way it is.

The AMA went there and many 1%ers adopted it AS THIER BADGE and live by it. To the casual cruiser going through midlife crisis on his brand new Harley wanting to look the part, good luck. Like one brother said 'You don't go around dressing like a cop do ya?' Loco California. Bottom line people, if you want to be, then do it.

Don't talk about, just do it! 1%ers are real. I do not fly a patch anymore but, I will always be a 1%er. The differance is ITCB. You sidewalk boys and newbes need to understand one thing and that is, Would you die for you country?

1%ers would die for their patch and their brothers. I see it all the time the kissasses who want to be somebody by wearing all the support gear for their local powers to be then go for it but, understand this you play with fire, sooner or later you get burned! I've been riding on/off since I was 14; i'm now 62. Just recently, last year, I joined a MC,Leathernecks MC Int'. Since we have no recognised chapter in Ok, I am what is considered a MAL; member-at-large. I wear these colors because they represent who and what I am, a Marine.

At the time I had no idea of the meaning of a 3 pc patch. Lately I have heard statements, just via talk forums, that these colors cannot be worn.

I have never been approached directly. I've rode all over OK. I rode from OK to the Grand Canyon, south to Phoenix, Las Cruces, El Paso, Juarez and back to OK; without a problem. I say that because I went out on the road to ride, not to cause problems.

I respect all bikers. I don't attend the rallys that 1% MC's put on, however, the Bandidos had a Toys for Tots run I would like to have gone on. Is there anything I should do other than mind my own business? Well I wear my own leather vest but with the patches I earned with sweat and blood from being in the forrest service many moons ago (wildland firefighter) and a couple of other small non affiliated biker patches. I do not wear any patches on the back nor do I wear support gear of any club (nuetral).

Some say that normal joe's (citizens) like myself can't be real friends with 1%ers because I'm not thier Brother (in the Club, committed as they are) but that's BULLSHIT in my case. I have a 1%er compadre who lives 2 doors down and we hang out together either in my garage or his and have a few cold ones and work on our bikes together.

Hell he helped me tune up, lower and replace the springs on my 98 FXD. He even scored me some FXDWG mini apes for it at no cost. Just a beer and some carne asada on the grill and some tunes while the kids play and we wrench. Now to your situation: The Bandidos MC are known to agressively push the AMA patch on rider clubs or non affiliated MC's in Texas.The red and gold is thier colors (That of the Marines too) and they will agressively educate anyone or any club sporting them other than thier support clubs. I also know that some clubs that support the Marines (Vietnam Vets) as MC's are sanctioned by the Bandidos and other clubs. All I can say Compadre is know where you ride and keep the rubber side down.

Loco California. I am not sure any 1% club would take offence unless you are behaving or are located in an area that would lead others to mistake you for a 1% member. As far as T's with 1% icons then this is just plain out of order. Many many clubs will get pissed off about that one. How will they know? Well you would be suprised how many know each other and a new face ALWAYS raises suspicion.

At the end of the day it down to common sense. If you just want to wear any lookalike colors to the mall then its probably ok, wear the same gear to a venue where club members a likely to be then watch out. Even in my own clubhouse we had several other clubs in for our anniversery, these included 81 as well as many others, My laces came undone on my redwing boots (high leg type) I started to do them up when one of the visiting clubs noticed the redwing logo on thr boots, 'WTF is that man' he asked (he was smiling) I showed him the logo and all was well.

Now I definately would not get away with wearing a deathshead and my club get on well with most others, how would a total non club member get on? Poorly I would suggest. For those that say they wil wear what they wish where they wish then so be it. Stick on a cops uniform and hang around a few street corners and see what happens! Those in 1% clubs have earned the right to wear the colors and other insignia.

If you earned it, wear it, if you want to pretend just dont wear it where the real thing can see it. Respect and best wishes to those who have earned it.

Best Answer: Yes he is and yes the clubs, are pi$$ed off by it. The Outlaws have stated, any BLS clothing with a patch on it. Must not have a territory on it, if so it must be taken off and or turned inside out.

3% Patches For Sale

I know of a few fans, who have been pulled over and their stuff taken. Word has come down, that no one in my club. Can ride with anyone, wearing a BLS patch. They must remove it, or turn it inside out.

Citizens and motorcyclist fail to know, how deadly serious the clubs take this. The clubs don't care, if you enter their world, you live by their rules. If you break the rules, you will pay the price. The cops can't protect you, they can only clean up the mess after words. Quote: Attention to all UKSDMFer's.

Please read this information. As many of you may or may not know, there are some serious issues in the UK regarding the Black Label Society back patches, and the Motor Cycle clubs of Britain. Since the BLS patches first started to appear in the UK, there has been a hostile response to them from the MC's. However, up until the summer of 2005 the situation was largely not known about by BLS fans.

This situation changed dramatically in Manchester during the 2005 tour. As any BLS fan will know a small contingent of Satan's Slaves MC's turned up at the Manchester show to vent their hostility towards the wearing of the BLS patches. It culminated in the show being canceled. Since then, things have gone from bad to worse.

The Manchester incident was seen by the MC's of Britain as a clear warning and message to Zakk and BLS that the 3 piece back patch set, which is copied from the kind of 3 piece back sets that MC's have to earn, was unacceptable in the UK without either permission or clearance to display it and wear it from the leading MC's of Britain. Despite repeated attempts by UK fans to address this issue on the official zakkwylde.com forums, to date no permission or clearance has been sought, and no statement regarding the matter has been made. It must be pointed out that UK fans now know that this was in no way Zakks fault. The seriousness of the matter was never brought to his attention by the staff of his forums. The matter has since been brought to Zakks attention through dialogue with a leading representative of the UKSDMF forum, RoadRunner UK, and Zakks European promoter.

Zakk and his management are said to be deeply concerned and are in the process of making a statement. The British based BLS tribute band Sonic Brew, and the owner of the UKSDMF forum have been in contact with the two leading British MC's, Hells Angels and Outlaws. Both MC's have been extremely helpful, patient and courteous in this matter. They have made it clear that they have nothing against UK BLS fans, and have no wish for any conflict with us (what a relief). Their issue is solely with the patches and BLS insignia. They have made it clear that should they see anyone wearing them, they WILL remove them and confiscate them. Therefore it is strongly advised that no one in the UK should be seen either wearing or displaying BLS back or front patches, or any T shirts or other clothing displaying BLS insignia until the situation is resolved.

Doing so will only put oneself at risk and inflame the situation even further. How The. can you not see, The problem is simple, I know this because I have history, apart from Christian clubs who are usually converts from a world of a lesser legal so as to speak, the only people who wear patches are those who do time have a records example you have to go to get it on print to wear the patch, patch wearers all have enemies, some of these patch club wars have been raging since the late 60s & early 70s just six weeks ago there was another explosion of bink gang wars fought leaving two people dead and three wounded.

The point about the BLS is their a fanzine base following with not one prospected member among them, having a following from six to sixty from deluded board single mothers, six year old kids to sixty year old men trying to get back their youth does not make work on a good level when dealing with patched up clubs, ever stood against another patched up club No? Well there's one of BLS non qualifying reasons for one, no amount of music playing band with fan base will allow you on to wear a patch kit can get really hairy, furthermore all patch wears have to be legally able to leave home so under aged intended they never get in until their about 20 years of age upwards and that's just one of your problem with the BLS and that is their groups of juvenile delinquents who still have legal guardians and I say again no amount of band playing music whether it be metal or rap can sensible allow or endorse membership, question? If you have a heavy metal MC then that means your whole agenda supports whatever band, Where the @+@ӣ dose the chapter takings go to? And who get the last say? Who is the hierarchy?

And who is the mother or sister chapter’s? Where and how do the intended members get on and who get the club fees, and if it’s a heavy metal MC then the band gets all the club takings who are already probably raking it all in?, See How that Works? I date care whether it be pantera or pac will get the label they want, there's only one way in that that is to prospect whether you’re a supporting club or out for yourselves, I agree no effing fans putting up patches, I am having the very same problem because of pantera the crazy blanco perra swears to god in her head that she is On because of pantera and dark glasses freekin mad.

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